Monday, April 14, 2008

Hills En Fuego

We noted the other day that several weeks had passed in the Hill Section without a sale, and then, boom, two homes near each other on 9th St. sold (916 and 943). (See "Action on 9th.")

Now there's a third sale, almost enough to qualify as a trend: The Hill Section is on fire!

The lucky sellers this time have paid their dues – 811 Boundary Pl. has been on public offer for almost 9 full months, since mid-June 2007.

But let's dial back further first. In Sept. 2004, the current owners paid $1.789m for a property listed as new in 2003.

Just 2 1/2 years later, they sought $2.599m (+$810k/+45%).

And yet, as great as a newer home in the Hill Section might sound, the sellers were repeatedly snubbed. Maybe it's that location, barely up east off of Ardmore, on a tight street facing a series of older, beaten-up Hermosa MFRs. Maybe it was the home itself. As buyers got pickier, 811 Boundary was passed over.

The price came down. Over the months, it dribbled a bit at a time, gradually reaching $2.199m. (Still +$410k/+23%).

At the end of March, the last big reduction hit: $2.199m to $2.099m (+$310k/+17% over the 2004 purchase price). That's where it was when a buyer was found.

Of course, that last price was a big cut off the dream price of last Summer (-$500k/-19%) and the final price may or may not leave the sellers in great shape. But you know they'll be better off with a sale this Spring than they would have been hanging around any longer.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

I know, I know - MB is totally isolated from the world, But interesting new press today on Slate:

Here Comes the Next Mortgage Crisis
Subprime was just the beginning. Wait until California's prime borrowers start handing their keys to the bank.
By Mark Gimein
Posted Tuesday, April 15, 2008, at 8:12 AM ET
http://www.slate.com/id/2188982/

MBWatcher said...

It's no fire sale, but the new home at 815 2nd just cut $300k, so it's now at $4.495m after 2 months.

Anonymous said...

I must have no life. Interesting article 9:18, but way too generalized to have much relevance in the good areas of LA and the OC. Also, I take issue with his statement that in a year, the fact that someone walked from their mortgage will not adversely affect their credit score. He gives no substantiation for that statement and I suspect he is flat wrong. The lost opportunity cost would be substantial. Mr. Gimein is a good writer, however, he sometimes is willing to make statements without any form of backup, which is why he is a good writer and not a great one.

Anonymous said...

DQnews has the March homes sales update up:

http://www.dqnews.com/News/California/Southern-CA/RRSCA080415.aspx

Wow.

Anonymous said...

If you have $3M, why would one want to live in Manhattan Beach instead of one of the really nice neighborhoods in LA like Malibu, Pacific Palisades, Santa Monica, Bel Air, or Holmby Hills?

MBWatcher said...

FWIW I don't have $3m, but the reasons to live here are too numerous to count. Of course, it's personal and it ain't for everyone.

That said, we need people to live inland and up in PV and yes, even in Santa Barbara and think they've got it better. We can't fit you all here.

Anonymous said...

8:56 - not sure, I always thought of Manhattan Beach as full of white Republicans who wanted to live around other people like them without going to Orange County. It has a good high school, but that seems to be the only draw to me. Manhattan Beach isn't really one of the traditional "nice neighborhoods" of LA like those other localities you mentioned + Beverly Hills and Hancock Park.

Anonymous said...

8:56 - Everybody has different criteria. The commute from Malibu can be really rough, plus you have considerable fire and mudslide risk.

PP, Bel Air, and Holmby Hills are all LAUSD. Santa Monica is much more business-oriented than some people like. Venice is too quirky. Hermosa is too fun. Redondo and PV are too far to commute. There are positives and negatives to every community.

For me, there's something special about MB. Just walking around downtown and on the Strand or green belt, and knowing that its *your* community just feels good in a way many other places can't replicate.

There's plenty I'd like to change about the community (I'd start with a real tree canopy in East MB, wider lots in general, more undergrounding of utilities, etc.) but at the end of the day, MB just feels special to me.

Anonymous said...

Anon 4:03

Assuming you live in MB....take a look around you, the people who act as though they have the most money are usually the ones trying to keep up with the Jones' and they will be the first to fall. I bet this story has more relevance than you think.

Anonymous said...

9:43, I've lived in the town for 30 yrs and worked here for 18 years and you are absolutely wrong. Either you don't live here or you have some form of personality defect that prevents you from enjoying many of the good people who live here and good things about this place.

Anonymous said...

10:44

Relax. I never said that MB is not a nice place with some nice people. I'm simply saying there are people in MB who are in over their heads. Trust me, I know a few.

Anonymous said...

I don't get the "PP, Bel Air, and Holmby Hills are all LAUSD" argument. If you're qualified for a 2-5 million dollar mortgage and don't have enough left over to send your kids to private school, maybe it's time to re-evaluate. MBUSD is an excellent school district, but it simply cannot compare to some of the better private schools on the west side and up in PV. Sure, you can send your kids to one of those private schools, but an hour or more a day total scool commute borders on child abuse in the long run.

Why Buy MB? said...

Why would people live in MB vs those other great "hoods"?
- Beach: a real beach lifestyle next to the beach
- Schools: not having to pay $25k- $30k per year per child allows MB buyers to plow some of that savings into thier lifestyle or Home purchases.

Great place MB! That said i see more downside RE pressure than upside pressure in MB (or anyplace) right now followed by a multi year flat bottom.

- MBW - love the surf widget.

MBWatcher said...

Yeah I was happy to find that surf widget. Wasn't sure if folks would see it down at the bottom, tho.

Anonymous said...

The only private schools in LA that REALLY give kids a leg up in the college admissions game are Harvard-Westlake, Brentwood School, and Milken.

No other private school is going to do anything for you that MB schools won't.

Costa consistently sends almost two hundred kids to UCs, a couple dozen to USC, a handful to Ivies, and hundreds to other great colleges every year.

If your kid wasn't gonna cut it in the first place (and lets be honest, these things are recognizable pretty early on), private school won't help.

 

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